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SalesUnscripted Interview: Jason Kanigan with Jim Padilla

SalesUnscripted: Let's interview Jason Kanigan on the culture, values and principles of your business...and how they affect your sales & work you deliver.

Jim Padilla of Gain The Edge To Interview Jason Kanigan

The founder of one of the largest third party sales and launch organizations has Jason Kanigan on as his guest in this deep level podcast.

This is a key interview for founders, CEOs, and department managers who want to understand business growth.

An important "project death point" Jason covers is the Start Gap: how it can damage not only the project and its profitability but also the relationship between your company and your customer.

Jim digs into Jason's unique point of view about sales, and how that applies to a business primarily centered on process improvement.

If you want to know more about Jason Kanigan's perspective on selling & business, this is a Can't Miss discussion between two sales experts.

>>If you have problems in your sales process that you need to identify and fix, book a consultation with Jason here.<<

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Perverse Incentives And Your Business

Perverse incentives are everywhere. I guarantee you've got at least one in your business right now.

ARE YOUR BUSINESS PROCESSES AS CRAZY AS THIS?

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I was talking about Cambodia: A Book for People Who Find Television Too Slow (NOT an affiliate link) and it triggered another memory.

This was another little European colonial adventure into darkest Africa. The name of the game was “Take The Rubber” so that natural resource could be used back in the civilized world. The Congo was divvied up between some corporate concessions and here’s where things start to get weird.

Perverse Incentives In The Belgian Congo

Some soldiers were required to account for every single bullet they’d been issued.

They either had to have the shell...or the hand of a native they’d presumably dispatched with said ammunition.

Humans being occasionally awful, you can see where this is headed.

Emil decides he wants rabbit for a late afternoon snack. Not being the greatest shot, he pops off three shells before hitting his target.

Let’s say The High Command is all right with the rabbit accounting for one of the shells. But the first two shots? Them bullets have to be accounted for somehow.

A lot of Congolese ended up walking around as amputees.

Logical. Right? The ultimate in Lawful Evil mentality, for you gamers.

Your Business And Perverse Incentives

My question for you today is: Are there processes in your business that are as nuts as some of those of the Belgian Congo? Are you measuring and creating results because of a robotic “If This Then That” conformity with loony premises? Is it time to make a change towards sanity?

Additional examples of perverse incentives are the:

  • Soviet era glass plant, first making too-thick and then too-thin glass, neither of which was useful to anyone but still satisfying the incentive structure
  • System that at first rewarded private firms transporting prisoners to Australia by the number of convicts loaded at departure, rather than those who arrived at the destination...leading to overcrowding and unnecessary deaths
  • time IBM attempted to produce more robust code by rewarding programmers by the line, which instead lead to bloated programs.

I describe a factory that produced a production scam with its piecework reward structure from my own experience in this podcast.

Government organizations such as the US Department of Veterans Affairs are not exempt from claims of perverse incentives.

Perverse incentives are particularly common in sales compensation programs.

Frankly, if you think your system is "too good for" or somehow exempt from perverse incentives, you probably aren't looking hard enough.

>> Jason Kanigan is a business strategist trained in operations improvement methodologies. To book a time to discuss your situation with Jason, click here. <<

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Jason Kanigan on LegacyCast

What does "legacy" mean? Host James Snow interviews Jason Kanigan on LegacyCast, the podcast about leaving a legacy.

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Podcast Interview: Jason Kanigan on LegacyCast

We get into a conversation first defining "legacy" for me, then move into instances of legacy-creating in my life so far. Civic volunteer experience with my home town, what I've done since moving 3000 miles to another country, and then legacies I'd like to build. Listen right here:

Jason Kanigan on LegacyCast Will Make You Think About Your Own Legacy

This interview will get you thinking about your own legacy. And for the record, as I share at the start of the podcast, I do not consider leaving a business as an inheritance a legacy. Especially as a business owner, it's easy to get caught up in the idea you're building and forget about legacy.

>> Jason Kanigan is a business strategist. To book a call with Jason, click here <<